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On Wikipedia, only [[WP:ADMIN|administrators]] have the right to view [[WP:Deletion policy|deleted material]]<ref>The default [[MediaWiki]] setting is that only administrators ("sysops") have access – see [[mw:User rights]]. On English Wikipedia, CheckUsers and Oversighters also have this permission implicitly; however, traditionally (and in almost every case), these users are already administrators. There is also a non-standard "[[Wikipedia:UAL#Researchers|researcher]]" user group which has access. Wikimedia [[m:Stewards|stewards]] also have access to deleted content across Wikimedia, as do other global groups on select projects.</ref> (whilst some deleted material is restricted to an even smaller group of "[[WP:OVERSIGHT|oversighters]]", and some [[WP:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia|deleted hoax articles]] are visible to all users). There have been occasional discussions in Wikipedia's history about [[Wikipedia:Perennial proposals#Deleted pages should be visible|allowing wider access to deleted material]], often referred to as "viewdelete" or "viewdeleted" rights.<ref><tT>"viewdelete"</Tt> and <Tt>"viewdeleted"</tT> are actually informal terms for a bundle of 3 associated [[MediaWiki]] user-rights: <tt>deletedhistory, browsearchive</tt>, and <tt>deletedtext</tt> – see [[mw:User rights]] for what each one does.</ref> This page summarises the Wikimedia Foundation's view on this issue, given in response to [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Persistent proposals/Straw poll for view-deleted|a 2008 discussion]].

{{cquote|1=Allowing non-administrator users to have access to deleted pages would vastly increase the frequency and volume of legal complaints. (It could have even worse consequences than that in the long term, up to and including corrective legislation by Congress, which would be a disaster.) It is difficult to overstate how much legal and practical difficulty this would cause the Foundation. To be frank, community adoption of such a disastrous policy would create an actual emergency that would likely require Board intervention. I normally favor and support community-driven initiatives, so please believe me when I say I am not raising this set of concerns lightly. The current system is not broken -- so the best advice is 'don't fix it.' [[User:MGodwin|MikeGodwin]] ([[User talk:MGodwin|talk]]) 13:47, 1 October 2008 (UTC)|4=<span class=plainlinks>[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AVillage_pump_%28proposals%29%2FPersistent_proposals%2FStraw_poll_for_view-deleted&diff=242245446&oldid=242205474 13:47, 1 October 2008 (UTC)] [[User:MGodwin|Mike Godwin]], then legal counsel for the Wikimedia Foundation}}

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I have been asked a couple of times whether, as WMF's present general counsel, I share Mike's view as expressed above. I can confirm that I fully agree with Mike's assessment. [[User:Geoffbrigham|Geoffbrigham]] ([[User talk:Geoffbrigham|talk]]) 02:18, 27 August 2011 (UTC)|4=<span class="plainlinks>[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29/Persistent_proposals/Straw_poll_for_view-deleted&diff=446913619&oldid=347165981 02:18, 27 August 2011 (UTC)] [[User:Geoffbrigham|Geoff Brigham]], then general counsel for the Wikimedia Foundation}}

This position was reiterated in response to a discussion on [[Wikimedia Commons]] about extending access to deleted material to users with access to the [[Commons:Commons:OTRS|Commons OTRS system]], to facilitate handling of OTRS tickets:

{{cquote|1=We are always respectful of and impressed by community initiatives. For that reason, it is tough for us to put a barrier in front of folks who are sincerely seeking a solution to a challenge. So our apologies in advance, but, to be honest, it will be difficult for WMF to support the proposed solution in this case.<br/><br/>Please allow me to explain in brief. With this proposal, WMF is concerned about possible increased liability for the Foundation and OTRS agents. Sensitive legal matters may be deleted, and, for that reason, increasing the size of the group who can view such deleted material could arguably increase WMF's liability. In addition, OTRS agents could risk personal liability by undeleting content that had been originally deleted for legal reasons (either by the community or WMF). We appreciate the opportunity to be consulted, and we are sorry we cannot support this. [[User:Geoffbrigham|Geoffbrigham]] ([[User talk:Geoffbrigham|talk]]) 17:31, 6 November 2011 (UTC)|4={{diff|Commons:Commons:Village pump/Proposals|62140273|62102744|17:31, 6 November 2011 (UTC)}} [[User:Geoffbrigham|Geoff Brigham]], then general counsel for the Wikimedia Foundation}}

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